Tuesday 30 November 2010

Homework due in Monday 13th December





  • Curley's wife is a provocative flirt just asking for trouble.
  • Curley's wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for.

Which one of these statements do you agree with most? Give reasons and examples from the book in your answer.

9 comments:

  1. kimmy-
    i partly agree with the statement 'Curley's wife is aprovocatice flirt asking for trouble' as i think that Curley's wife is just looking for something to do to pass the time of day. She doesn't care whos she is talking to, as long as she is getting attention, wether that means the attentions from Curley or any of the ranch workers. "She had full, rouged lips and wide-spaced eyes, heavily made up." this shows that Curleys wife is described as a 'tart' and is seen as 'jail bait' by the ranch workers, who she is trying to get to talk to her, it is obvious that want nothing to do with her, but she is determind woman and wont stop trying to take the attention off herself. On the other hand i also agree with the statement 'Curley's wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for.' We as the readers feel sorry for Curley's wife as she aspired to be in the movies and had her hopes and dreams destroyed by the fact she never recieved the letter an actr had sent her, so she could be in the movies, instead she settled with marrying Curley and living on the ranch "He says he was gunna put me in the movies". Also when Curley's wife is frst introduced, we notice she has not been given a name, this suggests that the fact Curley's wife was never named it helps create the impression of her as someone with no individual existance of her own, this allows the readers to see the more vunerable side to Curley's wife.
    The statement i agree with most is 'Curley's wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for.' because of the fact that although she creates a lot of tension and is a flirt looking for trouble she is a very lonely character in the book and stuck in a marriage she wants nothing to do with. When she dies, you feel more sympathy for her as she was only letting Lennie stroke her hair, this shows that she is a kind person for letting Lennie do that even though it lead to her and Lennies deaths.

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  2. I think curlys wife is a provocative firlt that is asking for trouble. I think this because in all of the scenes she is in, she always plays to the crowd asking for the attention and flirting with males around her. I think she acts like a flirt because she wants to be notice by the men; i think she wants to be noticed by the men because she does not get the attention she seeks from her husband curly. I also thinks she puts this act on becuase she does not feel she has a true identity, she does not have a name just labelled after her husband. I also thinks she flirts because, when the book was set males and females did not have equal rights; by flirting with the men because she has no real power, this is her way of having power by flirting with them.

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  3. Curley's wife is not given a name, and is initially seen as belonging to her husband. At this period in history, women are seen as objects, prized for beauty and deemed only useful for housekeeping and having children. As the only woman on the ranch, Curley’s wife is lonely and sad – something her marriage to Curley only makes worse. She reveals throughout the course of the story that she is unhappy in her marriage because her husband seems to care little for her, and is really more interested in talking about himself than anything else "Swell guy, ain't he? Spends all his time sayin' what he's gonna do to a guy he don't like."

    However, there is another distinctly darker side to Curley's wife, one that is petty, cruel and self-obsessed. She flirts with all the ranch hands, as we realise when Candy says "I bet she even give the stable buck the eye", which implies that even someone as unpopular as the negro stable-buck would be a target for her flirtatious nature if she believed it would ignite Curley's hot-headed temper and get him to pay her the attention she desperately craves. Any sympathy Steinbeck creates for Curley's wife is likely to dissipate when she barges in on Crookes, Lennie and Candy, when she cruelly singles the men out, calling them the weaklings of the pack, left behind for a reason. In her conversation with the men, she reveals her strange dilemma – while she scorns these ranch men, they’re the only ones she has to talk to, and talk she will, whether they’ll listen or not. She tries to make herself feel bigger by picking on those she sees as beneath her, mocking Candy's age, calling Lennie a "dum-dum" and, worst of all, threatening Crookes with a lynching; "I could get you strung up on a tree so fast it aint even funny"

    Overall I believe that, although Curley's wife may be lonely, she is a vapid, frustrated and attention seeking "jail-bait", who picks on the vulnerable to make herself feel important.

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  4. I think that curley's wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for. Firstly because as a woman at the time of writing the book she was looked down upon as a lesser person just because of her gender - "Ranch with a bunch of guys on it ain't no place for a girl", this quote is quite sexist because the guys are saying that a woman does not belong in a working environment and like she doesn't have the right to be in there speaking to the men as she is of lesser authority.

    Secondly I think that curley's wife also feels lonely because there are no other women on the ranch for her to talk to, only men "I get lonely" I think that this shows Curley's wife is not always trying to flirt with everybody, this may be the only way she feels that she can get the attention of the men and get the to talk to her.

    I also think that Maybe Curley's wife does not get alot of attention from Curley this is why she seeks it from elsewhere. "Heavily Made up." Curley's wife might do this to get the attention that she craves, which she isn't getting from her husband. I think that their marriage could also be difficult and that she could be quite frustrated within her marriage because she never has any time away from Curley as they live in a "two by four house" and she has to listen to Curley talk all the time about "what he's gonna do to guys he don't like", this might leave Curley's wife feeling frustrated because she might want to sit and have a conversation with her husband about things other than that.

    I do partly agree with the fact that Curley's wife is a bit of a flirt, because she does get overly dressed up just to go in and talk to the men and her body language is also quite flirty and gives off the wrong impressions "and put her hands on her hips"

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  5. I agree with the statement “Curley’s wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for.” Curley’s wife acts like a provocative flirt, using her looks to get the attention of the males on the ranch, so that they will talk to her. Being the only female on the ranch leaves her feeling very lonely and the only company that she can have is that of the male ranch workers. Curley’s wife is shown to be a trouble maker, and she does come across this way, but she isn’t out to cause trouble she just wants to talk to someone “And then her words tumbled out in a passion of communication, as though she hurried before her listener could be taken away”. We feel sympathy towards her because all she never gets the opportunity to talk to someone and jumps at the chance to talk about her past to Lennie who seems willing to listen to her.

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  6. I agree with the statement "Curley's wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for". She is an attention seeker and she does flirt with all the other men on the ranch but this is only because she doesn't get enough attention of her husband Curley. She feels like she is trapped with Curley saying that she gets frustrated living in a "two by four house with him" and having to listen to him going on about men he doesn't like and what he is going to do to them. She must also feel quite alone on the ranch being the only women, and its never mentioned that she has a social life outside of the ranch so she must get very frustrated seeing the same faces everyday which would explain her flirtatious attitude and that she gets "heavily made up" when there are any new ranch workers because she needs to new attention to make her feel fully wanted on the ranch. She is also a very naive and vulnerable character, we know this by when she was talking about when she was younger and she says "He says he's gunna put me in the movies" which shows she doesn't realise when she is being used.

    I do think that Curley's wife is very flirtatious and is an attention seeker but I believe that she is only an attention seeker because she doesn't get enough attention off Curley.

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  7. Seonaid-

    I feel that I agree with both statements,this is because although curley's wife is seen as "looking for trouble" I believe that the fact that she constantly craves attention from other men suggests that her actions are not intended as they may appear. Curley's wife feels neglected and unloved as she is seen and made to feel less superior, this tells us that maybe she has forgotten how it feels to be loved, futhermore, that she doesnt consider her actions to be perceived as flirtatious. Consequently,I feel sympathy towards her as she is being victimised and isloated from other people as a result of her gender.

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  8. Katy Roberts:
    I agree with the statement 'Curley's wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for.' This is beacsue i think she dresses to impress and she flirts because she is lonely. She is the only woman on the ranch so she doesnt have any friends and she is expected to stay in the house and do the cooking and cleaning for her huspand so she must get bored and lonely so she turns to the other men on the ranch to amuse her. Also, i dont think she gets the attention she needs form curley. "Think im gonna stay in that two-by-four house and listen to how curleys gonna lead with his left twict, and then bring in the ol'right cross?" This quote proves that she doesnt like to stay in the house with him so she flirts with the other men to get the atantion she needs. So, overall i dont think she is asking for trouble, i think she just flirts to get what she needs, that doesnt get form curley.

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  9. Alex Barr:
    I mostly agree with the statement that 'curleys wife is a victim who we are meant to feel sympathy for'. I think this because first of all she isn't even given a name, so she has no true identity, she is just "curleys wife" meaning she belongs to him, this suggests people look down on her.I do agree that she is a flirt, but I don't think that she is just looking for trouble,I think that she craves attention because she doesn't receive any off curley as she says "spends all his time sayin' what he's gonna do to guys he don't like, and he don't like nobody" this shows that she doesn't get any attention off her husband, meaning she goes else where to get it, and she only goes out on the pretence of looking for curley as she isn't allowed to talk to other men "I never get to talk to nobody, I get awful lonely" this shows she only wants someone to talk to, and because she is looked down on because of her gender, she has to act provocatively to get noticed. I don't think she realises the consequences of her actions for the men on the ranch, she is just lonely and bored.

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